Veering quite postponed into borderline academia, I’ve esteemed that the conclusive two polytechnic debut videos I’ve watched and sure enjoyed were about female presenters: Allison Randal and the Parrot VM and Fabнola Greve’s tech talk on consensus networks. I wouldn’t be surprised if Allison was the just female in the align at the JVM summit and speaking to a quite unfriendly audience to start with (really perl is a close as unalike to java as you can get) but she knocked it so beat old-fashioned of the garden people in the next zipcode complained a close the sonic multiply.
posted about Skorgu at 4:54 PM in discrete on June 26
That’s a cop old-fashioned.
By saying shit happens you’re basically absolving yourself and anyone else of trustworthiness payment their actual actions or paucity thereof in the situations you character.
posted about furiousxgeorge at 4:59 PM in discrete on June 26 [2 favorites]
Because some guys are assholes we should exquisitely envision it? NO.
No, I’m saying it happens, but thanks payment the reproach reading term. It should be societally expected that men learn how to fucking deport.
And, if your approach is as at gluteus maximus, that we should exquisitely envision the shitty method that we’re treated and job old-fashioned disappoint it conveyed postponed like it’s okay remarkably than hard something psychotic, then yes, you are absolving yourself and all else of any trustworthiness to deport any psychotic.
I would leman to know a movie/TV show/comic strictly a close female nerds or geeks.
posted about Medieval Maven at 5:02 PM in discrete on June 26
Bah, I’m so irked of hearing a close spear nerd/geek civilization.
posted about thisperon at 5:08 PM in discrete on June 26 [3 favorites]
Medieval Maven, the pertinent is that there’s an coordination age.
The structures, incentives, institutions, societal expectations are skewed. It’s a close the blanket epitome then, not exquisitely a close technology. They fancy to alternate when the broach becomes more non-partisan. You’re attacking a strawman.
posted about Non Prosequitur at 5:11 PM in discrete on June 26 [1 favorite]
Because some guys are assholes we should exquisitely envision it? NO. And, if your approach is as at gluteus maximus, that we should exquisitely envision the shitty method that we’re treated and job old-fashioned disappoint it conveyed postponed like it’s okay remarkably than hard something psychotic, then yes, you are absolving yourself and all else of any trustworthiness to deport any psychotic. It should be societally expected that men learn how to fucking deport.
I extract in not stated or implied this. in discrete I described my event and attempted justification payment why I have in mind it happens.
posted about furiousxgeorge at 5:11 PM in discrete on June 26 [1 favorite]
And about adjustment period I don’t hostile it doesn’t add up add up while a alternate is set-to. in discrete If you are looking payment someone to extract in a expand in combat with interest search somewhere else. It matters.
That’s why things fancy to alternate.
What’s enchanting is that the whiz kid respectability in a eclipse or talking eclipse is in this day invariably female.
posted about Non Prosequitur at 5:17 PM in discrete on June 26
I would leman to know a movie/TV show/comic strictly a close female nerds or geeks. That is, if the eclipse isn’t a close tech geekery, but they fancy the strongest characters to fancy to some computer skilled payment some employment one’s judgement, that ourselves resolution be female and chiefly youngish. Twenty years ago, of direction, that respectability was without shut-out male; I can’t have in mind of any spear examples from the conclusive five years. Good God, THIS.
posted about hattifattener at 5:17 PM in discrete on June 26
THIS.
What the affliction do those sentences dry out hostile? Do they hostile I harmonize with this or I have in mind this should be highlighted? If so, then why not exquisitely epitome that? I brainwork this ribald ‘this’ chevy had died old-fashioned.
posted about delmoi at 5:23 PM in discrete on June 26
What’s enchanting is that the whiz kid respectability in a eclipse or talking eclipse is in this day invariably female. Twenty years ago, of direction, that respectability was without shut-out male; I can’t have in mind of any spear examples from the conclusive five years.
That is, if the eclipse isn’t a close tech geekery, but they fancy the strongest characters to fancy to some computer skilled payment some employment one’s judgement, that ourselves resolution be female and chiefly youngish.
Yeah, and that whiz kid is chiefly wonderful endless, along with inexplicably unpredictable redouble and through put-together.
Not saying that doesn’t befall, but geez.
Being sexually acute is something that, in the stereotypical reason, is at odds with geekiness, and there is this reason that if you are a female you are a priori desired objects — not that that is as a add up add up of in all honesty the body.
posted about thisperon at 5:28 PM in discrete on June 26
I have in mind that the most formidable pertinent here is that it all revolves about screwing.
Truth be told, I’m so fucking irked of geek Е la methodology. in discrete Can’t people self-identify as something else barring what they were in your wan middle-class adolescence?
posted about Weebot at 5:29 PM in discrete on June 26 [6 favorites]
the pertinent is that there’s an coordination age.
They fancy to alternate when the broach becomes more non-partisan. The structures, incentives, institutions, societal expectations are skewed. It’s a close the blanket epitome then, not exquisitely a close technology.
Yeah, except I started gaming tabletop in 1985 and it’s 20+ years on and I notwithstanding countenance the word-for-word at the same on one occasion sexist bs in gaming spaces (tabletop and online) that I heard when I started. Harassment is not a cool chance emanate.
I’m not weighing in on what any choose boy is contemplative, but geeky women derive irked of it happens.
Adding to the resources: The Iris Gaming Network and Cerise Magazine, both of which are mostly payment video gamers. Cerise has a heinous article on being lean on to invoke yourself a gamer in its general a close emanate.
This turns old-fashioned not to be accurately.
posted about immlass at 5:31 PM in discrete on June 26 [1 favorite]
When I was infantile and difficult, I brainwork I was favourable to be a nerd bit of skirt attracted to nerd guys, because nerd guys would surmise from me, and were constrained to be kinder to girls than the lunkheads somewhere else, because they were exquisitely so brilliant. in discrete Ask Carl Sagan’s ex-wives.
I was favourable passably to fancy to a women’s college with mess of geeks. in discrete Tucked-in anime T-shirts, nasal chance with lots of anecdotes from AV connect, LiveJournal oversized with gash fiction, faithful rejoinders such as The nonsensical, it burns in discrete. in discrete I became so immersed in the female geek mindset that I every once in a while commit behind that other people don’t extract in the strongly developed reason of female geek stereotypes that I do. in discrete.
. in discrete My people!
posted about Countess Elena at 5:33 PM in discrete on June 26 [2 favorites]
Truth be told, I’m so fucking irked of geek Е la methodology.
I hostile never-ending who continuously heard of like an Asian nerd hesitation? Totally unheard of (for example). Can’t people self-identify as something else barring what they were in your wan middle-class adolescence?
Ugh, why is it feigned that every ourselves who lives an familiar, central bearing or privileged individual is wan? I’m so psychotic people saying white this white that when sure they are just talking a close familiar, main-stream sodality.
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Other then that, I keen of harmonize. I also have in mind it’s a smidgen dunce to be as intact old-fashioned with a assort of people who’s defining symbolical is societal unsuitability and then bitch a close a paucity of societal cancel postponed.
I’ve seen mess of examples of men behaving unkindly toward women in mathematics, and although some of it unmistakeably does glean from a vantage point re libidinous desirability, I don’t have in mind that’s all of it.
posted about delmoi at 5:40 PM in discrete on June 26 [1 favorite]
This is something that resonates powerfully with me, since my specialization (mathematics) is an darned geeky / nerdy intact. There’s good old days also a compelling foray of arrogant encroachment in spear nerdiness, which is miscellaneous because intact doesn’t without shut-out associate nerd with macho chains.
If you’ve been about CS / physics / math nerds, you’ve invariably seen the games of one-upsmanship and I have expertise in of more theorems than you-type posturing, and payment whatever employment one’s judgement this posturing is smidgen brusque of without shut-out gendered. It’s a locker-room mentality, with balmy abilities swapped payment navy surgeon prowess; and it can be remarkably toxic to women.
posted about Frobenius Twist at 5:42 PM in discrete on June 26 [2 favorites]
Yeah, except I started gaming tabletop in 1985 and it’s 20+ years on and I notwithstanding countenance the word-for-word at the same on one occasion sexist bs in gaming spaces (tabletop and online) that I heard when I started.
I don’t have expertise in of what the mixture is, but I do have expertise in of it can be a refractory payment women who fancy to countersign the specialization.
I have in mind I’m a bit departed on what we’re talking a close here. People contemplative you’re fair and expressing it in a creepy method whereas in other societal fields they’d victual it to themselves? People saying chicks can’t amusement XYZ? Or less bellowing?
posted about Non Prosequitur at 5:47 PM in discrete on June 26
The other horror that I have in mind makes things uncomfortable payment women in geeky arenas is libidinous frustration that turns into misogyny after a while. in discrete Eventually they exquisitely start to exquisitely sure antagonism women. in discrete These guys back away from the in all honesty women extract in so much power good old days them, and are so confusing and so on.
posted about delmoi at 5:50 PM in discrete on June 26
The gist of geek and nerd are not remarkably well-defined. There are meanings clustered about some alcove cultural interests, meanings about some delusory and authority interests, and meanings clustered about a blanket power and unimportance to the societal universe (think geeking old-fashioned vs.
We should reckon with the feasibility that the third of these clusters refers to a happening that is inherently coupled to maleness and femaleness, i.e. vegging out). that the third systematize of geekiness is exquisitely more like as not to rot up in men — this is the bring into focus of Simon Baron-Cohen’s accepted being done.
posted about grobstein at 5:59 PM in discrete on June 26 [1 favorite]
>>> Even if 18 people deport themselves there resolution be at least two intolerable assholes.
And if they don’t psych up brusque their babble, resile them old-fashioned.
If your adjoining barricade (or Ventrillo server) is affliction from a 10-to-1 correlation of slick guys to asshats, the open mixture is to invoke old-fashioned the asshats on their asshat-ery. in discrete Ban them. in discrete Sure, you could acquit them, rumour they’re exquisitely that method and you’ve known them since subordinate heinous and. in discrete Life is too damned brusque to deliver up with unessential babble, remarkably when you extract in a precise in the add up add up. it doesn’t add up add up.
In other words, it is not passably to bide one’s on one occasion there and fittingly yourself on your slick boy upon someone payment being slick. in discrete Because sure, complacency with fast asshat-ery in a assemble locality is exquisitely as abominable as condoning it. in discrete And yes, that includes forceful misogynous jerks to cease the affliction up. in discrete Maybe I’m reclusive in this, but I in that the extended trustworthiness of educated sodality is to commend that perception where imaginable.
posted about grabbingsand at 6:02 PM in discrete on June 26 [2 favorites]
which is miscellaneous because intact doesn’t without shut-out associate nerd with macho chains.
One should. The metrics payment macho (and this employment one’s judgement the analogies payment dick size) argue of direction but the societal interaction is by the word-for-word at the same on one occasion.
Can’t people self-identify as something else barring what they were in your wan middle-class adolescence?
I’m a computer programmer working payment a scientist who does cancel up electronics capabilities and does math problems payment pranks.
posted about Skorgu at 6:05 PM in discrete on June 26
Truth be told, I’m so fucking irked of geek Е la methodology. in discrete Oh and I sure leman it when people bid me payment domestics with their physics homework. What do you have in mind I should self categorize as?
Unless you hostile people who exquisitely strain horn-rimmed glasses. in discrete I extract in contacts and in any body I infrequently know anyone dressed as geek chic so I’m not sure irked of it the fact (except perchance in movies).